7.21.2009

Racial tension flares in Paris, Texas during rally over the dragging death of Brandon McClelland

by Jesse Muhammad

In a time when many Americans are caught up in the euphoria of a seemingly post-racial America, a crowd of Black and White protesters squared off in words during a rally in Paris, Texas on July 21 over the dragging death of Brandon McClelland.

The demonstration headed by members of the New Black Panther Party, the Nation of Islam, and local Paris activists was countered by Nazi flag waving White skinheads and reportedly a few KKK members sprinkled amongst the crowd but not in their white sheet attire.

The KKK members did not live up to the pre-media hype that had law enforcement on high alert.

The attempt by Lamar County officials to establish "protest zones" was thwarted when each opposing side decided to meet head on in the dividing streets. The heated demonstration drew the likes of a surrounding helicopter, sheriffs, and state police in full riot gear.

The Blacks, numbering nearly 200, called for a "street trial" being that this was originally the date set for the trial of formerly accused Shannon Finley, who was released along with Charles Crostley last month. The two White males were initially charged with dragging McClelland over 70 feet under a pickup truck down a Lamar County road leaving several of his body parts dismembered. But special prosecutor Toby Shook dismissed the charges.

Both sides screamed "Black Power" and "White Power" back and forth. No punches were exchanged and one member of the skinheads was arrested for reported disorderly conduct.

"I am happy to see people still coming out to support", said Jacqueline McClelland, mother of Brandon. "I am going to continue to fight this until the end."

Before tension flared, Black protesters heard words from members of the McClelland family, residents who shared other cases of injustice, a Paris preacher, Krystal Muhammad, Brenda Cherry, Jimmy Blackwell, and Deric Muhammad. Also in attendance was Hashim Nzinga.

(Look for more coverage of this rally in an upcoming edition of The Final Call Newspaper.)


(Sheriffs stand in between Black and White protesters as they shout at one another)

(A member of the White skinheads is arrested)

(State police arrive on the scene in full riot gear)

(Jacqueline McClelland (l) with Deric Muhammad)

(Black protesters go outside their "protest zone" to square off White protesters)

(Several White skinheads wave their Nazi flags)

(A member of the New Black Panther Party on watch)

(Jimmy Blackwell of the Tarrant County LOC)

(Keyon Mitchell Sr speaks about the plight of his son)

(A member of the McClelland family sends a message)


(A local preacher speaks)

(Deric Muhammad of the Nation of Islam speaks)

34 comments:

  1. As a liberal Caucasian who also lives in Texas, I am deeply bothered by the story of the dismemberment and lack of justice in Paris, Texas. Furthermore, to see skinheads and KKK members still present and outwardly active, it is very heartbreaking. It is shocking to someone like myself because we do not face racial discrimination and so I believe we are ignorant to the trials and tribulations of others. When people cheered on the streets of my city when Obama was elected, I think we all felt a sense of peace and healing. To see that racism is still an issue is saddening. Many of us do not want it to be like this, and I hope we can eradicate it and show no tolerance.

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  2. I am also a liberal Caucasian who lives in the northeastern US. I am also quite concerned and angry about the white supremacy exhibited in Paris, TX and the history of racial inequality that I recently learned about in their educational system. However, and unfortunately, I am not surprised about racism still being a significant concern, I still see it and hear about both personally and from my friends & family to this day. It is both covert and overt. For me I believe and have been educated to some degree about White Privilege and that as Caucasians we need to be humbled by the White Privilege that we have had historically, which is unfair and unjust. If their is a history of racial inequality in the criminal justice and educational systems in Paris, TX I believe officials and activists need to closely examine this phenomenon. I think that if the McClelland family believes that justice was not served for their son, then this case should be brought to a higher court for examination. It is inexcusable that people still need to fear for their safety due to race or need to fight like crazy for equality when it should be a God given right!!

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  3. As an African American women who grew up in a small "racist" town, all I can say is: "Here we go again and what the hell is wrong with white Americans overall? Don't get me wrong, I commend "white liberals" who are not racist, but how do they deal with members of their own race who may/still believe this way? Do they call their "friends" or relatives "out" whenever they display such foolishness or do they just be quiet and ignore the situation for fear of "social" rejection? Are they active with any organizations that combat "racism" or any other injustices that people of color endure and encounter on a daily basis? How many African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, etc., to they know and have they invited them to their houses for dinner yet?

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    1. Try calling all of us who we are AMERICAN drop the African, Mexican, and Asian 79 % of legal American were born right here in the good old USA. Admit were your from is half the battle and I don't amagine you were born in Africa either.

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  4. IM not from America , but seeing things like this happening.... its sad realy... bunch of bald guys, waving flag and screaming white power... i mean commone welcome to 21. cetury, dont they have anything smarter to do with there lives...?

    P.s. to poste above mine... first u all need to stop generalize by skin color(u "white ppl doin that", u "black ppl need to.."), than comes all else...

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  5. Can you post a picture of Brandon on this page?

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  6. I agree, I have no tolerance for White racists nor Black racists! Stop the Hate! Do not turn a blind eye, hate comes in many colors!

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  7. Racists will not post free speech on racism! If this all goes away you will not have a job, I understand.

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  8. Talk about racists!

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  9. I agree with the anonymous AA woman who wrote just two posts above mine. To the anonymous white non-American who wrote just above me, I wonder why you dislike the message of the AA woman. She is merely asking a question, yet you accuse her of generalizing. She stated that she "commends white liberals who are not racist". You should answer the question however uncomfortable it might be.

    Also, when you are a non-American white, it is often difficult for you to understand the unique history of American style racism and discrimination, chiefly against blacks, but also against many others in different times in history. I don't hear you discounting their experiences, so please don't discount hers or her appropriate and thoughtful question.

    Thank you.

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  10. Enjoying the dialogue...seems like this is a reality check for some people.

    To the person who requested to see a photo of Brandon McClelland go to:

    http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_5348.shtml

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  11. After reading the comments, I feel the urge to comment again. I felt that AA woman brings up a good point although the manner in which it was wrote seemed to me as a generalization of whites and "white liberals who are non racist" as she put it. I'm also rather bothered by the statement that she said, "what the hell is wrong with white Americans overall?" This comes accross as if all white Americans support and actively engage in racism which seems like a racially biased statement. I obviously don't know the manner in which it was meant, but I can say that I felt frustration and alienation when I read the comment. I feel like we don't need to widen the racial divide further yet in her post, it still comes down to whites are to blame. The KKK is not representative of all whites, and certainly not of myself or my multicultural friends. The mere idea that as a white liberal, I would not invite my different ethnic friends over, seems like a racial judgment in itself (by the way, I have and will continue to invite them over, and no, it is never acceptable in my older generation conservative family to say degrading and hateful generalizations about another race, religion, or sexual orientation ).

    I believe that if we are ever going to overcome this social issue, we need to work together to abolish it. Not blame an entire race for wrong doings of their grand parents, or of subversive groups that they do not identify with. Not over generalize "white liberals" or draw conclusions. It's frustrating because I feel like that's what we are trying to take a stand against, yet even in a discussion it seems unobtainable.

    It is my belief that everyone, no matter what color needs to stand up and say THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. A man, a human man got dragged behind a truck and the people who did this got off on "lack of evidence"? It is inhumane, regardless of race, and everyone needs to fight against it. Not just among their own racial group, but together. It's unacceptable, and even more so the fact that the crime was racially motivated. We don't need to turn our backs or our eyes, we need to fight.

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  12. Racism is wrong. It always has been wrong and always will be wrong. Any type of unfair discrimination against anyone is wrong. It's such a shame that racism is still such a huge issue in the 21st century. I'm an African-American woman, and although I've been lucky enough to never be the victim of racism, I am uneasy about the fact that others both black and white, haven't been as fortunate as I have. This type of war doesn't determine who's right, it kills and only determines who's left. We're all human beings, we should be able to rise above this foolishness.

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  13. I am a white woman from Paris, Texas. I am extremely ashamed of the pictures and articles that are published about my hometown. I completely disagree with the simple minded rednecks that claim to be members of the kkk and the actions of the nbp. I agree it is 2009 and i with that both whites and blacks would stop with the racist comments. I pray that Brandon gets justice for what has happened to him. I hope they can get enough evidance to prosecute who ever did this horrible thing. But with that been said i hope America is not turning into a place where if someone wants to say another is guilty then they go to prison forever. I did not know Brandon nor do i know the boys that were Accused of this horrific crime. I just want everyone in America to take a step back and know that not all white people of this community are members of the kkk racist pigs.

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  14. I am a white woman from Paris, Texas. I am extremely ashamed of the pictures and articles that are published about my hometown. I completely disagree with the simple minded rednecks that claim to be members of the kkk and the actions of the nbp. I agree it is 2009 and i with that both whites and blacks would stop with the racist comments. I pray that Brandon gets justice for what has happened to him. I hope they can get enough evidance to prosecute who ever did this horrible thing. But with that been said i hope America is not turning into a place where if someone wants to say another is guilty then they go to prison forever. I did not know Brandon nor do i know the boys that were Accused of this horrific crime. I just want everyone in America to take a step back and know that not all white people of this community are members of the kkk racist pigs.

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  15. I FOR AN I

    ISRAEL.
    WHITE AMERICA.
    RUSSIA.
    CHINA.
    AFRICA.
    BLACK AMERICA. TO BE CONTINUED

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  16. Am black, racism is nonsense whether from a black or white. If ya nose, ears or anythin on ya boby is in a different position than that of the other person of another race, consider ya self different from them but if its otherwise, the one who fears God the most is the one that is the best of all. Wake up guyz white power or blackpower is bullshit. $get it en work 4 a common goal. En if u still discriminate others but still go 2 church, piz stop wastin ya tym coz the God tha created u hate ya nonsense.
    By muzkays (muzkays@yahoo.com)

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  17. THIS SEEMS TO BE THE POSITION ONLY THE SO CALLED BLACK AMERICANS TAKE (GOD). THE CREATOR HAS A WAY OF DEALING WITH ALL THAT FALL SHORT OF DIVINE GLORY. A SPIRITUAL REALM NO HUMAN CAN DEFINE. WHILE WE ARE ON THE EARTH SELF PRESERVATION IS IN ORDER. FROM AFRICA TO THE WEST INDIES AND BACK TO AMERICA, WE ARE BEING TARGETED, DISEASE, POVERTY, POLICE BRUTALITY, AND EVEN THE MORMONS HAVE GOT IN ON THE GAME. HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU NOTICED THESE YOUNG WHITE MEN WHO CLAIM TO BE THE SAVERS OF BLACK SOULS, A MINUTE OF YOUR TIME, BRAINWASHED FOR LIFE, KEEP LOOKING. BLACK NATIONALISM WITH THE OBJECTIVE TO SECURE LAND FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT, SECURITY, AND ECONOMIC PROSPERITY IS IN MY OPINION THE KEY TO BLACK SURVIVAL. WE ALREADY KNOW OF A RACE OF PEOPLE BROUGHT TO EXTINCTION BY EUROPEAN IMPERIALISM, (INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF THIS LAND) HENCE IND. BUT WHO AM I, JUST A CHICKEN SHIT WHO GOES BY THE NAME OF ANONYMOUS.

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  18. never here a comment about blacks killing blacks every night of the year over a little white rock and never heard yall mention the black supremist was there blacks need to look at there own commmunity never see whites sitting on a corner selling crack rocks in there neiborhood

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  19. I am an African-American. I too have suffered the "Taste of Social Injustice." I've felt the hands of those who tried to restrict my right to life. They place stumbling blocks before my feet, and they tried to silence my speech. I am what I am and no one can change, make, mold or break the iron cast that I am. My mind is that of solid pure gold, refined to perfection, letting not the simple stop my course. Stand in the midst of trouble for what is right, remembering not the old. It is our time to proclaim that what was lost. Pray and fast that the will of the Almighty be done on earth. Let no one change your course and stop your dream.

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  20. Our society has done a fine job of tamping down racism that exists in the hearts of all people. The action taken by the NBP and NOI is nothing more than bringing racism out of the closet and back into the light. The responsibility of this rest squarely on those organizations that would continue to suggest, through there actions, that there is active racist behavior in our legal and political institutions. I charge this blog and other black groups who perpetuate this idea for setting race relations back 40 years and the continuance of racist behavior by both black and whites.

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  21. @David You gotta be joking! What society are you living in? Are you talking about same society hat has seen more hate attacks agains Obama that any President in history? Are you talking about the same society that has unlawfully locked up

    Man you can't blame NBPP nor the NOI for this crap in this country. And especially Brother Jesse's blog! Come on man, he is doing a great job.

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  22. WELL DMS, PUT A NOOSE AROUND YOUR NECK THEN LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND ASK YOURSELF, WHAT BLACK POLITICAL ORGANIZATION IS TRYING TO OPPRESS, MURDER, ASSASSINATE, WRONGLY ACCUSE, IMPRISON, OVERALL PUSH YOU TO THE BRINK OF NONEXISTENCE.
    ASK YOURSELF DMS.

    JOHN HE IS NOT JOKING, HE LIKE MOST WHITE AMERICANS, THAT IS 70 PERCENT BELIEVE OUR EFFORTS TO SURVIVE PERPETUATES REVERSE
    RACISM. MLK PUT YOU FOLKS UNDER A SPELL, BEST BELIEVE ALL OF US COLORED FOLK ARE NOT ABOUT MARCHING OR TURNING THE OTHER CHEEK, SOME OF US FEEL THE SAME WAY MOST REPUBLICANS FEEL, KILL MY DOG I WILL SLAY YOUR CAT.

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  23. never here a comment about blacks killing blacks every night of the year over a little white rock and never heard yall mention the black supremist was there blacks need to look at there own commmunity never see whites sitting on a corner selling crack rocks in there neiborhood

    FIRST AND FOREMOST LEARN TO SPELL.

    WE ACTUALLY SPEAK EVERYDAY ABOUT THE DRUGS THAT ARE PUMPED INTO BLACK COMMUNITIES BY RACIST POLITICAL AGENDAS. WE CAN'T CONTROL THAT NO MORE THAN YOU FOLK CAN CONTROL THE EXCESSIVE USE OF HEROIN, METH, ICE, AND THE REST OF THE PREFERRED DRUGS OF WHITE FOLK. OF COURSE OUR CRIME WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED TO KEEP PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND THE POLITICAL INTEREST YOU SUBSCRIBE TO SATISFIED, WHETHER KNOWINGLY OR NOT. SADLY MOST OF YOU FOLK DON'T EVEN KNOW, YOUR ANCESTORS ARE HERE DUE TO BANISHMENT FROM ENGLAND (SCUM OF THE EARTH.) CHECK YOUR HIS-TORY HOMIE. MAYFLOWER YOUR ASS, WE GAVE BIRTH TO YOU CULTURE STEALING, SWINE EATING, PEDOPHILIAC, RECESSIVE GENE, MUTANT ALBINOS. BOW DOWN AND BE THANKFUL THAT WE THE PEOPLE DON'T THINK LIKE THE MONTANA FREEMEN AND GO HUNTING.

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  24. TO ALL THAT COMMENT ON THIS BLOG, LETS REMEMBER A BLACK MAN WAS MURDERED. DEATH BY A HIT AND RUN WHICH RESULTED IN THE DRAGGING OF HIS BODY UNTIL IT WAS DISMEMBERED. IF YOU SO-CALLED LIAR/BERALS ARE SO INTERESTED IN JUSTICE, LETS SEE YOU LOBBY FOR THE DEATH PENALTY FOR AT LEAST THE DRIVER. I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE IF THIS WAS A LEGITIMATE ACCIDENT, THE DRIVER AND PASSENGER BOTH BLACK, THEY WOULD BE IN A CELL NEXT TO O.J., MUMIA,TED KENNEDY, OOPS HE WAS EXONERATED OF ANY TYPE OF NEGLIGENCE. DAMN!!!

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  25. AMEN TO LEARNING HOW YOU GOT TO AMERICA!

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  26. I want to know as a single white mother, when black people will be treated just like everyone else. This is what they want and what they preach. They want to be equal. To all black people get a lowing paying job like the rest of us and do the best you can! What gives you the right to get a job just because you are black, while me and my daughter starve because there's a law that employers must have a certain amount of african americans? We ALL come from different backgrounds with ancestors who lived in poverty, lost family members to war and sickness and found a way to cope. The ONLY people that I hear screaming about their poor lives is black people. I don't hear the US indians ranting and raving on how their lives have been affected by the past and forced to live on land without water or soil to grow food and livestock. They learned to deal with it and MOVED ON. STOP CRYING AND JUST LIVE LIKE WE ALL DO! If you want to be equal, BE EQUAL AND SHUT UP ABOUT THE PAST! Why is it legal for the black panthers, dressed in black robes, carry guns, saying anything they feel like and the KKK can't even dress in white or speak for fear they will be locked up. IS THIS EQUALITY? I had a personal experience in Cleveland Ohio where I had to move because the black people next to me would call my children "whitey", etc. and stole their bikes. My son was playing basketball in our own backyard and had enough and called another kid a "black" name. The black kid came into MY yard and punched him in the face and my son went to get his BB gun. He started out the back door and I grabbed him and said LET IT GO BECAUSE I JUST WANTED OUT! But, the blacks called the cops on MY SON!!!! The day I was moving out the blacks next door decided to have every relative over for a cookout and everytime we stepped out the door, me and my kids were called every "white" racial remark and I HAD ENOUGH AND CALLED THEM NIGGERS. OOOOOOOOOOOO. Well, that brought the cops to MY house again and I was actually told by a cop that I CANNOT SAY NIGGER OR I WOULD BE ARRESTED AS THE BLACKS PROCEEDED TO SAY WHATEVER THEY WANTED. Enough is enough. To all black people, stop with your "poor me" crap and we can all get along!!!! If not, you are bringing this war on yourselves. GOD BLESS THE NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS (who really have something to bitch about!), IRISH, GERMAN, MEXICAN, FRENCH, AFRICANS, ETC!!!! PEACE!

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  27. MY DEAR AMORITE SISTER:
    Amorite: Definition from Answers.com
    Amorite ( ) n. A member of one of several ancient Semitic peoples primarily inhabiting Canaan, where they preceded the Israelites, and Babylonia.
    THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRADING RACIAL EPITHETS, SO I WILL SPARE YOU.
    YOU SEEM TO HAVE A GENUINE ISSUE WITH INJUSTICE AND INEQUALITY.
    I FEEL YOU. LET US DEAL WITH THE TWO MURDERERS PROPERLY, DEATH BY LETHAL INJECTION, OR SEND THEM TO 915 WITH THEIR WHITE ROBES AND THEY WILL BE DEALT WITH. UNDERSTAND BOO, INDIANS DON'T COMPLAIN BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY OF THEM LEFT TO DO SO, MEXICANS LOATHE WHITE PEOPLE, THE IRISH, GERMANS, AND FRENCH WHAT IS YOUR POINT. THIS IS YOUR LINE. (To all black people, stop with your "poor me" crap and we can all get along!!!!) OKAAAY.
    LEAD THE CHARGE TO KILL WHITE SUPREMACY AND YOUR DREAM WILL COME TRUE. {BB GUN} "FUNNY" STEPPED IN THE DOOR WAVING THE 44. ALL I HEARD WAS PAPA DON'T HIT ME NO MORE. CATCH A FIRE BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  28. I am a white caregiver who took care of a lady who was a nazi death camp survivor. I do not understand how people can be so full of hate that they would display the nazi flag for any reason. Maybe they should pull up some pictures and stories of people in war time death camps. Do they really understand what the flag they so proudly wave stands for? There is no room for hatred like this. As far as hating people for the color of their skin no matter what color you are or what color you hate, you may be hating one of your best allies in doing so. By the way, although I was a small child when it happened, I still remember one of the few times that I saw my father cry. It was when Martin Luther King was assassinated. He was born and raised in the southern state of florida, as was my mother.

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  29. ALLWEWANTISJUSTICE.

    BRANDON MCCLELLAND
    SEAN BELL
    M.L.K.
    ABNA LOUIMA
    LEVI HART
    EMMITT TILL
    MEDGAR EVERS
    OSCAR GRANT
    FRED HAMPTON
    SKIP GATES
    OFFICER CROWLEY
    NEW YORK POLICE OFFICERS
    OAKLAND POLICE OFFICERS
    NEW JERSEY POLICE OFFICERS
    AND ALL THAT HAVE BEEN MURDERED BY THE HANDS OF INJUSTICE.

    HOPEFULLY GOD WILL BLESS US ALL.

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  30. TO THE "MAN" WHO THINKS ITS FUNNY THAT MY SON HAD A BB GUN.....ALL YOU HEARD WAS FATHER DONT HIT ME NO MORE"? WHAT IS THAT? YOU TYPE WITH FANCY WORDS AND THEN THINK YOU KNOW IT ALL. SOUNDS LIKE YOUR FATHER HIT YOU.
    HAD TO JUST GET PERSONAL DIDN'T YOU. AND ABOUT MY SON! NOW, WHO IS TAKING THIS WAY OFF THE SUBJECT! FIGURES, CANNOT STICK TO FACTS.
    YOU SAID THE NATIVE AMERICAN INDIANS DON'T SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY LEFT. YOU NEED TO VISIT THE WESTERN STATES AND GO TO THE RESERVATIONS, YOU MORON. THERE'S PLENTY, I'VE BEEN THERE.
    I HAVE ALSO BEEN IN THE MEXICAN NEIGHBORHOODS AND NEVER HAD A PROBLEM. YOU APPARENTLY ARE GOING BY WHAT YOU'VE READ AND NOT ACTUALLY LIVED IT, SO DON'T WRITE ABOUT SOMETHING YOU HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED OR SEEN.
    GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU GO WRITING LIKE YOU ACTUALLY KNOW SOMETHING!

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  31. YOU'RE RIGHT FELLA, I HAVE NOT BEEN TO ANY RESERVATIONS, I DON'T KNOW ANY MEXICANS. HOWEVER I HAVE BEEN TO DIFFERENT CITIES ALONG THE EAST COAST WHERE MILLIONS OF INDIANS THRIVED BEFORE EURO-PEON INFLUENCE. FURTHERMORE I AM A MAN TO APOLOGIZE IF I WAS OUT OF ORDER. I TRIED TO STAY ON POINT, BUT IT SEEMS YOUR KIND BELIEVES WE ARE WHINING OVER THIS HEINOUS CRIME. YOU TELL ME DAD WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF THIS WERE YOUR SON OR BROTHER KILLED BY BLACK MEN IN THE SAME FASHION. I THINK YOU WOULD FEEL LIKE MILLIONS OF INDIANS AND MEXICANS WHO HAVE BEEN DISENFRANCHISED BY THE STAR SPANGLED BANNER. YOUR ATTACK ON WHAT I WROTE IS VALID, BUT TELL WIFEY THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR SON OR ME OR THE RACIAL GROUPS MENTIONED. JUST SO YOU KNOW I DROPPED OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL. MY KEY TO SUCCESS IS READING, READING, READING THE SHIT IS FUNDAMENTAL.

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  32. TO ALL WHO ARE SO COMPELLED TO TRADE INSULTS WHILE OVERLOOKING THE REASON WHY WE ARE HAVING THIS DIALOGUE. LETS SEE HOW MANY WHITE PEOPLE WILL MARCH FOR JUSTICE. FOOD FOR THOUGHT, PICK UP A COPY OF THE FINAL CALL IF YOU DARE, READ CARTER G. WOODSON'S (MIS-EDUCATION), READ MARTIN LUTHER KING'S ENTIRE SPEECH I HAVE A DREAM, RESEARCH APARTHEID, TRY AND OVER STAND WHY BLACK PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR NAMES AND SUBSTITUTE THE SLAVE SURNAME WITH A X.
    LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT BLACKNESS BEFORE YOU ENTER OUR SECTION. JUST SOME LITERATURE TO HELP BROADEN YOUR HORIZONS (DAD.) OH YEAH YOU MAY BE THE FEDS BUT THAT IS JUST SOME MORE ISH WE DEAL WITH.

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  33. As a fomer citizen of Paris it concerns me that in this time we are divided as always. Are there concerns about Racial equality? YES! not only in Paris but in this country as a whole. Until we sit down and check all biases at the door and have honest and real dialog about the issues we will continue to have forums that are uncivil and racially tinged. The true queation is which ia worse the one who created the problem or the one that knkwa the problem exist and does nothing about it? I suggest it is the latter. The larger question is which one are you?

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